It’s hard to imagine a hundred years ago that the house where the vicar of Stretton looked would become part of a large hotel. Just out of sight to the left of the photograph above is the original part of the old vicarage which was built in 1831 for Rev. Greenall. It can still be seen from Stretton Road, opposite the school. In the 1920s, a new vicarage was built across the road and next to St. Matthew’s church, and it became a family. Thanks to research by Heather (nee Heesom) this is the story of the family who lived in the house:
Henry David Llewelyn Lloyd was born on the 14th August 1881 Edgbaston, Birmingham. It is sometime after the 1921 census and before 1926 when we see Mr Lloyd on the register of Associate Engineers as living at the Old Vicarage, Stretton. He firstly lived at “Shirley”, Birchdale Road , Stockton Heath, as a director of the Whitecross Wire works.
In the 1939 Register he was living with his wife Amy and his son Antony at the Old Vicarage, along with a gardener, cook and parlour maid. His daughter Dorothea Evelyn was married and working at the War Office in Westminster as a examiner in the censorship office; their youngest daughter Barbara, was in a Sanatorium at Abergele.
While at boarding school, Barbara had contracted Infantile Paralysis, commonly know as Polio. Before this she had been a keen horse woman having been taught to ride by my Great Grandfather, John Harrison from Hatton.
As a result of Polio, Barbara took up writing and in 1950 published a book called Little Green Men, in which she also drew and painted the pictures. This was some task as she had very limited movement in her arms and fingers and I have managed to source a copy:
The flyleaf clearly shows the terrible time the family went through and the determination of Barbara to succeed:
My Grandmother remembers Miss Lloyd seeing her being pushed around in a chair. The photo below is of Miss Lloyd in earlier times with my great, grandfather John Harrison
Mr Lloyd was not only a Managing Director but he was also made a JP in 1929. Despite this he had a couple of run-ins with the law for drink driving, lost his licence and had to employ a chauffeur. He passed away in 1945 at the Beamont Nursing Home, Warrington, leaving £48,000 .
The old vicarage was put up for auction on the 30th May 1946 at 11am:
The fine freehold Georgian residence of the Old Vicarage, Stretton, comprised of Entrance Hall, Cloakroom, 3 Entertaining rooms,5 Principle Bedrooms with washbasins, 2 Bathrooms, Garage, Hard Tennis Court, well stocked Gardens and Grounds total area 3 Acres.
2pm The residue of the Antiques and Modern furniture together with important sporting equipment and outside effects also a Tong and groove timber Bungalow containing 2 rooms with slow combustion stove, small scullery with a sink, the building is fitted with electric light.
The house was bought by Marie Teare and then became a hotel.
I can remember some of the antique furniture and porcelain at the Old Vicarage, especially a brass standard lamp that was engraved to Canon Cross, a large statue of a nun, a huge black ebony elephant that was used to prop the door to the lounge open. Happy days at the Vic.
Many thanks to Richard Barber from sending over three photos of his time at Stretton School. Richard left in 1961 and went to Sir John Deane’s, whereas most of his classmates went to Lymm or Stockton Heath. Richard thinks that the photos were taken around the end of the 1950s. One of the photos is below, and if you want to see more or can put a name to a face, then head over to the School Photos page
Today is the date by which we need to complete the 2021 census. It’s something on the list of things to do, along with possibly the weekly shop and maybe the first cut of the year for the lawns. However the census is only ever undertaken once every ten years so that makes it bit more special. It’s a snapshot in time – of life in Britain on 21 March 2021. Just as it was on 6 June 1841; 30 March 1851; 7 March 1861 and so on. As everyone knows, the personal information is kept secure for a hundred years and then released. This means that we’ll get to see what our parents/grandparents/great grandparents wrote in 1921 in January 2022.
This census is the first on-line. Previously an enumerator walked about the village taking down the details of each household and then collating into handwritten forms.
To bring this more to life here are the census returns from the place that we call The Partridge, although many others will know it as the Hollow Tree and before that, Walls Pit House. The Whitley family lived at Walls Pit House in the 19th century; Charles Whitley was a contemporary of Charles Darwin at Cambridge. More about the house and family here.
The 1841 census below only asked for the name of the residents, their age to the nearest five years, occupation and whether or not they were born in the same county:
Here we can see George, Peter, Ann and Mary Whitley along with Elizabeth Eaton and James Brotherton. Other than the latter whose occupation is down as MS (male servant) there is no information about the relationship between the other occupants.
By 1851 we can see more information such as relationship and place of birth:
It is quite difficult to read – even when enhanced, so if you’re interested in tracing your family tree, it’s always worth going back to a copy of the original census return. In 1851 we can just about make out that it was a family of unmarried siblings, with George Whitley the head being a non-practising surgeon. His brother Peter Whitley had presumably also retired from law, and both were living a life of relative luxury compared to the other residents of Stretton, along with their three sisters.
Ten years later in 1861 the data collected was more or less the same. So on the face of it, it’s all quite factual, but as we follow the family over the years, we can see that sisters Ann and Mary were living at Walls Pit alone and presume that their siblings had died. What we can see is that they were well looked after with now five servants:
So far so good, but we’ll skip forward twenty years to 1881 to show that obtaining data from census returns for individual houses isn’t always easy. For larger properties or with an enumerator who had an eye for detail, it’s quite straightforward, but the 1881 Census for Stretton looked like this:
Not only is the writing particularly tricky to read, but the names of the houses aren’t listed either. This means that it’s very hard to work out who lived where, especially when cottages were all rented and families moved around the village or local area in search of work. Fortunately in 1901 the enumerator that year was more diligent and all the names of the properties are included and the entries clear to read:
In 1901, the Whitley family were still living at Walls Pit House, and the level of detail required to be entered hasn’t really changed that much in 60 years. By 1911 each house had their own form to complete. Other than the details of the marriage and number of children, the details were pretty much the same:
This is as far as we can go at the moment with the raw data, we’ll have to wait to see what the 1921 census forms reveal in about nine months’ time.
However this is just the start. We’ve already seen that we can track the Whitley family who lived and owned Walls Pit House for over 70 years. By transcribing the entries, and then collating into spreadsheets then we start to get a picture of all of the village, and that’s when it starts to give a real picture of life over the past century in Stretton. If you want to see the transcribed census returns for Stretton, please have a look here or get in touch.
In the middle of the First World War, a young boy of 12 moved from Manchester to work at Hillside Farm and this is his story. What makes it special is that it has been told in an article in Cheshire Life and thanks to his grandson, there is also a wonderful audio recording made in 1972 of his time here just over a century ago. It’s always fascinating to read accounts of what everyday life was like, but Charles Samson speaks with such clarity it brings it all to life.
Before we go any further, we should just note that Hillside Farm is technically over the border in Appleton – along from Owen’s Corner. Over the past few months in lockdown the footpath past the farm has become even more popular for our daily exercise, so many from Stretton will be very familiar with the farm and fields around.
As with nearly all of Appleton, Hillside Farm was owned by the Lyons Estate from Appleton Hall. Tenant farmer, Ralph Tickle and his wife Ellen ran one of the most successful beef farms in the county. His great grandfather, John Tickle, had moved from Bold. Lancashire to Lower Whitley in 1805 and his descendants married into prominent farming families such as Whitlow, Neild and Horton. By 1894 Ralph Tickle had married Ellen Horton from Little Leigh, and moved to Hillside Farm where they raised their young family.
In his reminiscences, Charles Sampson (1903-1996) recalls his time at the farm as one of seven young boys living with the family in the farmhouse. Hillside Farm was very large and progressive, with cattle brought over from Argentina into Liverpool and then to Warrington on the train. He writes of driving over 200 head of cattle from the station up London Road from Stockton Heath and the farm work he was required to do with the calves. He speaks with obvious pride at being allowed to be in charge of driving the heavy shire horses and flat lorry down to Stockton Heath at the young age of 13 to collect the brewers grain from Greenall’s.
Charles Sampson talks fondly about the abundance of food compared to his life back home in Manchester, the meat hanging up in the pantry, the cheeses along the side and the jars of bottled fruit. He paints a vivid picture of the village on a Sunday which includes the family’s attendance at St.Matthew’s for the evening service, where each farmer, his wife, children, farm and house staff sat in their row in church. After the service, he recalls sitting in the drawing farm with the family singing hymns and writing letters home, before everyone retiring to bed at 10pm sharp.
It is clear from listening to the recording that leaving the farm was a source of regret to Charles Sampson, and he retained a love of cattle to the end of his life. He left to work with his father who had been asked to move up from London to Burnage, Manchester to set up a division of J Lyons, and when Lyons bought Black and Greens, Charles became employed in the tea package industry. It is with grateful thanks to his grandson for sharing the recording.
Just a year or so after Charles left the farm, and following the death of Ralph Tickle’s father, in December 1919 the Tickle family moved to Bishop’s Tachbrook in Warwickshire where they continued their success in cattle farming. Ellen died in 1943, but Ralph lived the age of 94, passing away in Warwickshire in 1962.
If this is your first visit to the history of Stretton website, welcome. For those of you who have visited before, here is a quick tour round a few recent updates.
For a start, you’ll notice a lot more maps, and this is thanks to the National Library of Scotland which allows the sharing of the maps for non-commercial uses.
Then there are the newspaper articles which have been added to the website on new separate page. These have been transcribed as more newspapers are scanned and come available on-line. They’ve been linked on the relevant page but if you want to see all of them, do head here. Likewise nearly 30 wills have been transcribed and added. These are invaluable if you are researching your family history.
And best of all are the photos and comments that have been shared – thanks to everyone who has taken the time to sort through their boxes and photos and send across. We’ve got new school photos, the first image of Fir Tree Cottage and new photos of the Cat and Lion.
Hatton Lane is one of the most popular for comments and thanks to the contributions the page has been really enhanced.
So even if the front post doesn’t change each week, there’s always work going on to add more details to the website. Please do get in touch – and thank you to everyone who has.
It’s very simple to use. Just enter your postcode and from the results you can then zoom in and out, as well as pan around to view other areas of interest. The window splits into two halves – the 1846 tithe map on the left and an OS map (or aerial view) on the right. You can drag the central button to the left or right to widen the view on either side.
You can also change the maps that are displayed in either window using the options under the search field. The image below shows an aerial image on the left from around 1973 with Acton Avenue clearly showing on the west of London Road.
Whilst this is fun to play around with the two screens, the tithe part of the tithe map is also really interesting as it reveals a large amount of detail:
To find out more about who owned the land where you’re living, click on the tithe map. The field highlighted above is either side of the Roman Road, behind St. Matthew’s school. In 1846 it was owned by Thomas Lyon (of Appleton Hall fame) and farmed by Mary Bolland who lived at Roadside Farm on London Road.
This map shows that more or less all the land from Stretton Road and Hatton Lane north towards Owen’s Corner was owned by Thomas Lyon. He started to hoover up land to surround his Hall (now where Bridgewater School stands) from Walton all the way up to Stretton. If you want to see how so much land ended up in the ownership of so few, a quick look at the tithe map of Appleton/Appleton Thorn shows that roughly 80% was owned by either Thomas Lyon or the Warburtons from the Arley Hall Estate. However, Thomas Lyon and never really got much further south than the crossroads as the landowner map of the whole parish shows a more complex picture with a larger number of landowners shown on the map legend below:
So going back to the original question, what was growing in your garden in 1846? This final screenshot from the website might help:
North of Stretton Road, half of the land was cropped, the other was pasture. Ironically the areas that we now retain as our green spaces, including the cricket pitch and playing fields were cultivated in 1846 for potatoes and oats. Whilst most of the farmland managed by Mary Bolland was put down to grass, if you live in Foxhills Close a hundred and fifty years ago your garden was a field of potatoes and turnips.
A big hello if you have found this place via the new Stretton Facebook Group. If you’ve stumbled across this page by chance and are interested in the finding out more about Stretton today – then do head over here.
Hopefully you will find out a bit more about the history your village – and if you’ve lived here for years, and want to share you history with those who have just moved in, we’re more than happy to post photos and memories. All we ask is that no living people – unless you’ve got their permission. All contributions will be acknowledged. In return, we politely request that people don’t lift the photos and share them elsewhere – at least without asking or crediting the site. This is a community website, and credit goes to the people of Stretton who have helped to make this a great asset for the village.
If you’re reading this because your ancestors lived here, then do feel free to get in touch. Lots of information is available, so even if you can’t see anything – do ask and we’ll see how we can help.
Living round the corner and making the most of our “lockdown walks” over the past few months, I’ve always assumed that the sandstone blocks that line Well Lane came from the church that used to be situated near Tanyard Farm. It’s hard to imagine they would have come from anywhere else but enquiries are underway to see if the pintle (part of a door hinge) could throw any more light on things.
What do we know about the church? From Leycester’s history of Cheshire it was stated that in 1666 the “ancient chapel of Stretton” was “ruinous and in decay”. From the reign of Henry II, the village was owned by the Starkey family, who lived in Lower Stretton and it is through that the church was built in the 13th or 14th century for Starkey family worship. This would have been convenient as it was situated between Stretton Hall and Lower Hall where different branches of the Starkey family lived.
The chapel was referred to in the will of Richard Starkey in 1527 as the Oratory of St Saviour, to which he bequeathed money for a “new steeple for a greater bell to be rung for the services.” Thanks to the work of Dr. Scott Swanson, we now know that further bequests were made that mentioned the church:
1527: Richard Stakey left money for
‘torches to the church of Budworth and to the chapel of Stretton’
‘to maintain divine service at the chapel and oratory of St Saviour of Stretton: a chalice; a book of the life of St Thomas of Canterbury’
repair and making of a new steeple at the said chapel of Stretton: 40s
1547: Thomas Starkey left bequests as follows:
my chamlet gown and velvet jacket to make two vestments for the chapel of Stretton
three of the funeral torches to Budworth church and three to Stretton chapel
chapel of Stretton: two kine (cows)
It seems that I’m not the only one to be interested. Shortly after I started the website, an ex-local resident got in touch to say
I was always told that there was a chapel of ease somewhere in the near vicinity of this farm house, but no one was quite sure of its exact whereabouts. However around 1967 (I was aged about 16) I was laying stone flags to cover the area between the front of the farm house and Well Lane (they are still there) and I had to dig out a depth of about a foot to be able to lay a particularly thick flag. Doing this, I uncovered what we all thought were the two sandstone base stones into which large doors would have been pivoted. The pivot holes still had evidence of the metal (lead?) in the holes that would have gripped the pivots on the bottom of the doors. These sandstone threshold stones were just outside the front of the existing farm house, to the left of the central front door, if I remember correctly. They are still there, buried under the flags. We decided that they were probably the doorway for the chapel of ease.
So work is continuing afresh to discover how we can find out more, and then to share the findings. But on a sunny evening after work, walking down the lane to get some fresh air, it still blows my mind to think that 500 years ago that people were attending church services in a chapel, and all that is left are a pile of sandstone blocks. If only we could turn back the clocks.
Just over a year ago, Stretton joined with over hundreds of others all across the globe as a “One Place Study” – here’s a quick reminder what a One Place Study is all about. Each quarter the society publishes a journal which is always a great read.
After a bit of persuading, I wrote a short article about Stretton for the March edition, and how I’d been undertaking a “one place study” for about ten years without even realising it. In a small village, it’s impossible to really get to understand the local history of a place without knowing the people who lived here. For me it was a very logical step – once I’d got started. The short article explains how I felt compelled to dip my toe into the water and tell the story, so that others can share in our history of Stretton.
This year, because we’re all staying at home, the society has made it available to everyone. And you might recognise some of the photos in the journal. It’s available here and if you would like to get in touch at all about it or anything else that you’ve discovered during lockdown, then it would be lovely to hear from you.
What a great surprise to receive this photo from the current occupiers of The Old Smithy in Common Lane who were having some work done in their bathroom. The plumber found this note behind the shower tiles, so with a bit of editing this is what is says:
This house was built by David Whittaker between May 1981 and May 1982. It stands on the site of the Old Smithy the land including the smithy demolished in February 1982 , was purchased from the Savage Brothers whose father was the blacksmith. The forge was last used in 1960.
To see what the smithy used to look like, head over to this page.